{"id":22853,"date":"2018-01-27T01:41:10","date_gmt":"2018-01-27T01:41:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.fjala.info\/?p=22853"},"modified":"2018-01-27T01:42:00","modified_gmt":"2018-01-27T01:42:00","slug":"nena-e-skenderbeut-vjosava-tribalda-ishte-puro-shqiptare-nga-pollogu-i-ilirides","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jehonashqiptare.al\/fjala\/nena-e-skenderbeut-vjosava-tribalda-ishte-puro-shqiptare-nga-pollogu-i-ilirides\/","title":{"rendered":"N\u00ebna e Sk\u00ebnderbeut, Vjosava Tribalda, ishte puro shqiptare, nga pollogu i Ilirid\u00ebs"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>NGA: <strong>DR. SC. ILMI VELIU<\/strong>, <a href=\"http:\/\/ina-online.net\/nena-e-skenderbeut-vjosava-tribalda-ishte-puro-shqiptare-nga-pollogu-ilirides\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">http:\/\/ina-online.net\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Me k\u00ebt\u00eb rast i p\u00ebrsh\u00ebndes shqiptar\u00ebt po edhe <em>Mustafa Nano<\/em> i cili, neve shqiptar\u00ebve t\u00eb ngrat\u00eb q\u00eb me &#8220;hile&#8221; t\u00eb shum\u00eb Nanove, mbet\u00ebm jashta kufive t\u00eb Shqip\u00ebris\u00eb Londineze, e q\u00eb Mustafa Nano na ka ofenduar e trishtuar me budallakit\u00eb e tia prosllave.<\/p>\n<p>N\u00eb vitet e tet\u00ebdhjeta, p\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb interesimit tim t\u00eb madh p\u00ebr t\u00eb kaluar\u00ebn shqiptare dhe hulumtimeve p\u00ebr heroizmin e Sk\u00ebnderbeut, nga pushteti jugosllav\u00a0\u00a0kam\u00a0\u00a0qen\u00eb i denuar dhe kam vuajtur 4 vjet burg t\u00eb r\u00ebnd\u00eb n\u00eb Idrizov\u00eb. Esht\u00eb leht\u00eb t\u00eb jetosh e shkruajsh n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebrin\u00eb e Ram\u00ebs e Kosov\u00ebn e Hashimit\u00a0\u00a0por\u00a0\u00a0esht\u00eb shum\u00eb v\u00ebshtir\u00eb p\u00ebr mua dhe prof. dr. Reshat Nexhipin nga Manastiri \u00a0q\u00eb jetojm\u00eb, shkruajm\u00eb e punojm\u00eb n\u00eb Maqedonin\u00eb e Ali Ahmetit. Edhe Nanos do ti luhej n\u00ebna po t\u00eb kishte shkruar nj\u00eb lloj teze t\u00eb k\u00ebtill\u00eb n\u00eb koh\u00ebn e monizmit. Ja burimet q\u00eb flasin p\u00ebr origjin\u00ebn e n\u00ebn\u00ebs s\u00eb Sk\u00ebnderbeut e q\u00eb Mustafa Nano nuk ka mundur e as q\u00eb din ti analizoi sepse ai nuk esht\u00eb historian por gazetar i thjesht\u00eb.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" title=\"Vojsava Tribaldi Kastrioti\" src=\"http:\/\/fjala.info\/2018\/vojsava_tribaldi_kastrioti.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" border=\"0\" \/><strong>Vojsava Tribaldi Kastrioti<\/strong><\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Gjon Muzaka, bashk\u00ebkohas e bashk\u00ebluft\u00ebtar\u00eb i Sk\u00ebnderbeut dhe njoh\u00ebs i mir\u00eb i aristokracis\u00eb s\u00eb Shqip\u00ebris\u00eb n\u00eb \u201cGjenealogjin\u00eb\u201d e tij n\u00eb tre vende e p\u00ebrmend\u00a0\u00a0n\u00ebn\u00ebn e Gjergjit, Vjosav\u00ebn dhe n\u00eb asnj\u00eb moment nuk thot\u00eb se ishte me origjin\u00eb serbe, bullgare, sllavomaqedone, greke, malazeze\u2026<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>S\u00eb pari, kur flet p\u00ebr baban\u00eb e Sk\u00ebnderbeut, thot\u00eb se Gjon Kastrioti me Vjosava Tibald\u00ebn kishte kat\u00ebr djem dhe pes\u00eb vajza. Pastaj m\u00eb posht\u00eb sh\u00ebnon se\u00a0\u00a0n\u00ebna e Sk\u00ebnderbeut dhe gruaja e Gjon Kastriotit quhej Vjosava Tribalda. Gjon Muzaka flet p\u00ebr Vjosav\u00ebn edhe n\u00eb pjes\u00ebn ku thot\u00eb se Sk\u00ebnderbeu rrjedh nga Vjosava dhe Giovani (prind\u00ebrit Vjosava e Gjoni) e cila ishte bij\u00eb nga nj\u00eb familje aristokrate dhe shum\u00eb e respektuar e Pologut. Muzaka n\u00eb asnj\u00eb vend nuk p\u00ebrmend se origjina e saj\u00eb ka qen\u00eb sllavomaqedone, serbe,greke,bullgare. Ai e ka ditur dhe e ka pasur t\u00eb kjart\u00eb se Pollogu ka qen\u00eb pjes\u00eb e Dardanis\u00eb dhe gjithmon\u00eb ka qen\u00eb i banuar me shqiptar\u00eb dhe edhe sot vazhdon t\u00eb jet\u00eb 99% shqiptar. S\u00ebrbia pas 1920 ka sjellur dhe ka vendosur kolon\u00eb serb\u00eb por ata jan\u00eb n\u00eb pakic\u00eb.<\/p>\n<p>2. Burimi i\u00a0\u00a0dyt\u00eb ku p\u00ebrmendet n\u00ebna e Sk\u00ebnderbeut,\u00a0\u00a0\u00ebsht\u00eb vepra e Marin Barletit, i cili esht\u00eb autor e biograf i jet\u00ebs s\u00eb Sk\u00ebnderbeut. Ai duke informuar p\u00ebr prind\u00ebrit e Sk\u00ebnderbeut thot\u00eb se n\u00ebna e tij quhej\u00a0\u00a0Vjoisava, e bia e nj\u00ebrit nd\u00ebr princ\u00ebrit m\u00eb t\u00eb njohur t\u00eb familjes Tribalda, i cili ishte princ dhe sundimtar i krahin\u00ebs s\u00eb Pollogut.<\/p>\n<p>Sipas njohurive dhe fakteve q\u00eb kam mb\u00ebledhur krahasuar e analizuar,\u00a0del\u00a0se Sk\u00ebnderbeu (Gjergji) ka qen\u00eb i Gjonit dhe Gjoni i Gjergjit. Dmth se Sk\u00ebnderbeu ka pasur emrin e gjyshit t\u00eb tij. N\u00eb koh\u00ebn kur Gjon Kastrioti\u00a0 e z\u00ebvend\u00ebson babin e tij dhe vjen n\u00ebkrye t\u00eb principat\u00ebs s\u00eb Kastriot\u00ebve, ata kan pasur pasuri t\u00eb pa tund\u00ebshme edhe n\u00eb krahinat Dibrave. N\u00eb at\u00eb koh\u00eb,fundi i sh. XIV, Gjoni martohet me vajz\u00ebn e princit t\u00eb Pollogut Vjosav\u00ebn.<\/p>\n<p>Njohurit\u00eb e k\u00ebtilla ne i krahasojm\u00eb me lajmet e burimeve t\u00eb dh\u00ebna, ku sh\u00ebnohet se babai i Vjosav\u00ebs ishte mbret apo princ i principat\u00ebs s\u00eb Pollogut. Nga k\u00ebto t\u00eb dh\u00ebna\u00a0del\u00a0se ai udh\u00ebhiqte me Pollogun para se Pollogu t\u00eb biente n\u00ebn sundimin osman. Mund t\u00eb supozohet se Pollogu qe pushtuar shpejt pas pushtimit t\u00eb Shkupit m\u00eb 1392, koha kur n\u00eb dokumente si zot\u00ebri i Pollogut p\u00ebrmendet princi me emrin \u2013 G\u00ebrguri, e q\u00eb\u00a0del t\u00eb jet\u00eb babai i vajz\u00ebs s\u00eb vetme me emrin Vjosava. Nuk ka pasur as djal\u00eb e as vajz\u00eb tjet\u00ebr.<\/p>\n<p>G\u00ebrgurin si zot\u00ebri e princ t\u00eb Pollogut e p\u00ebrmend n\u00eb nj\u00eb shkrim t\u00eb tij\u00a0edhe eromonahu Mihajli nga Leshka e Pollogut q\u00eb ka qen\u00eb n\u00eb vitet 1366-1371.<\/p>\n<p>Ivan Ivanov, Bllgarski starini, 1990, mendon se pas vrasjes s\u00eb Vukashinit m\u00eb 1371,te Beteja e Maric\u00ebs, me Maqedonin\u00eb lindore (Strumica, Gjevgjelia, Shtipi) vazhdon t\u00eb sundoj\u00eb djali i tij Krali Marko, si vasal i Sulltanit. Sundimtari i Pollogut-G\u00ebrguri, thot\u00eb ai, ka bashk\u00ebpunuar me Krali Marko dhe vazhdon tu kund\u00ebrvehet turq\u00ebve dhe t\u00eb vazhdoi t\u00eb sundoi edhe m\u00ebtej me krahin\u00ebn e Pollogut.<\/p>\n<p>Boban Petreski nga Universiteti i Shkupit kur flet p\u00ebr Vjosav\u00ebn thot\u00eb se mbiemri i saj\u00eb Tribalda p\u00ebrcakton p\u00ebrkat\u00ebsin\u00eb\u00a0\u00a0aristokrate dhe shtetrore t\u00eb shteteve mesjetare dhe jo p\u00ebrkat\u00ebsin\u00eb\u00a0\u00a0etnike. Sipas k\u00ebtyre t\u00eb dh\u00ebnave dhe duke e analizuar vet\u00eb emrin e babit t\u00eb saj\u00eb, princit G\u00ebrgur, mund t\u00eb vim\u00eb n\u00eb p\u00ebrfundim se ky em\u00ebr ka origjin\u00eb shqiptare dhe jo sllave- Gur Guri; Gjergj Guri, dhe mund t\u00eb themi se \u00ebsht\u00eb em\u00ebr\u00a0\u00a0personi-Gur dhe mbiemri i tij Guri\u2026 Gur Guri ose Gjergj Guri.<\/p>\n<p>Mbiemri shqiptar\u00eb Guri \u00ebsht\u00eb p\u00ebrdorur nga shqiptar\u00ebt n\u00eb Mesjet\u00eb por esht\u00eb i p\u00ebrhapur \u00a0dhe p\u00ebrdoret edhe sot an\u00eb e k\u00ebnd trojeve shqiptare. Sado q\u00eb t\u00eb k\u00ebrkoi dhe hulumtoi Mustafa Nano nuk do t\u00eb mund t\u00eb has\u00eb ndonj\u00eb sllav apo familje sllave n\u00eb Ballkan me emrin G\u00ebrgur. P\u00ebrkundrazi n\u00eb Kosov\u00eb e hasim edhe sot si em\u00ebr fisi apo familje shqiptare, G\u00ebrguri, te G\u00ebrgurt\u2026 si q\u00eb jan\u00eb Krasniq\u00ebt, Berish\u00ebt, etj.<\/p>\n<p>Dhe me plot\u00eb t\u00eb drejt\u00eb mund t\u00eb themi se pas vdekjes s\u00eb Car Dushanit, shum\u00eb feudal shqiptar\u00eb, Thopiaj, Shpatajt, Ballshajt, Kastriot\u00ebt, fillojn\u00eb t\u00eb ngriten dhe fuqizohen me principatat e tyre dhe ne mendojme se edhe babai i Vjosav\u00ebs, G\u00ebrguri ka qen\u00eb nj\u00eb nga ata feudal shqiptar\u00eb q\u00eb behet i fuqish\u00ebm dhe sundon me Pollogun deri n\u00eb vitin 1392, kur Pollogu s\u00ebbashku me shkupin bien n\u00ebn sundimin Osman.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><!-- Composite Start --><\/p>\n<div id=\"M303968ScriptRootC194856\">\n<div id=\"M303968PreloadC194856\">\n        Loading&#8230;    <\/div>\n<p>        <script>\n                (function(){\n            var D=new Date(),d=document,b='body',ce='createElement',ac='appendChild',st='style',ds='display',n='none',gi='getElementById';\n            var i=d[ce]('iframe');i[st][ds]=n;d[gi](\"M303968ScriptRootC194856\")[ac](i);try{var iw=i.contentWindow.document;iw.open();iw.writeln(\"<ht\"+\"ml><bo\"+\"dy><\/bo\"+\"dy><\/ht\"+\"ml>\");iw.close();var c=iw[b];}\n            catch(e){var iw=d;var c=d[gi](\"M303968ScriptRootC194856\");}var dv=iw[ce]('div');dv.id=\"MG_ID\";dv[st][ds]=n;dv.innerHTML=194856;c[ac](dv);\n            var s=iw[ce]('script');s.async='async';s.defer='defer';s.charset='utf-8';s.src=\"\/\/jsc.mgid.com\/f\/j\/fjala.info.194856.js?t=\"+D.getYear()+D.getMonth()+D.getDate()+D.getHours();c[ac](s);})();\n    <\/script>\n<\/div>\n<p><!-- Composite End --><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p>Ky shkrim \u00ebsht\u00eb p\u00ebrgatitur dhe ka t\u00eb b\u00ebj\u00eb kryesisht me polemik\u00ebn q\u00eb kemi pasur me historianin sllavomaqedon t\u00eb Universitetit t\u00eb Shkupit, \u00a0Boban Petreski, ku un\u00eb, para komisionit t\u00eb udh\u00ebhequr nga ai, me fakte historike dhe n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00ebn m\u00eb shkencore arrita ti mb\u00ebshtes p\u00ebr muri dhe t\u00eb mbroj tem\u00ebn e studimeve posdiplomike me titull: \u201cSk\u00ebnderbeu n\u00eb burimet Osmane e Bizantine\u201d, ku p\u00ebrfshihet edhe origjina e tij.<\/p>\n<p>Mua t\u00eb ngratit asnj\u00ebher\u00eb nuk ma ka marr\u00eb mendja se pas nj\u00eb lufte aq\u00eb shum\u00eb t\u00eb madhe shkencoro-historike, kund\u00ebr serb\u00ebve e sllavomaqedon\u00ebve, do t\u00eb duhet ta vazhdoj\u00eb luft\u00ebn edhe kund\u00ebr Mustafa Nanos i cili mund t\u00eb ket\u00eb edhe origjin\u00eb sllave e q\u00eb mua nuk m\u00eb pengon aspak.<\/p>\n<p>Mustafa Nano si duket e njeh mir\u00eb gjuh\u00ebn sllavomaqedone sepse p\u00ebrrallat e tia i ka mb\u00ebshtetur\u00a0 vet\u00ebm n\u00eb shkrimet shovene antishqiptare sllavomaqedone po edhe serbe. N\u00ebna e Kastriotit, nga shkrimet serbo-sllavo-maqedone, gjithmon\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb prezentuar si sllave me emrin Voisllava, e q\u00eb n\u00eb latinishten dhe sllavishten e vjet\u00ebr deshifrohet e lexohet si Vjosava.<\/p>\n<p>Se emri i n\u00ebn\u00ebs s\u00eb Sk\u00ebnderbeut-Vjosava, nuk mund t\u00eb lexohet e deshifrohet si Voisllava,(dmth sllave ) kam marr\u00eb p\u00ebrkthimin e Barletit n\u00eb gjuh\u00ebn fr\u00ebnge t\u00eb sh. XVIII\u00a0\u00a0ku emri i n\u00ebn\u00ebs se Sk\u00ebnderbeut \u00ebsht\u00eb deshifruar dhe i sh\u00ebnuar si Veisava dhe jo Voisllava.<\/p>\n<p>Dokument shum\u00eb i vlefsh\u00ebm q\u00eb e p\u00ebrmend Vjosav\u00ebn si e bia e mbretit t\u00eb Pollogut, me emrin G\u00ebrguri, \u00ebsht\u00eb\u00a0\u00a0edhe nj\u00eb let\u00ebr e shkruar nga\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0eremonahu\u00a0\u00a0Mihajli nga Manastiri Leshka, n\u00eb Pollog, e q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb\u00a0\u00a0i shkruar\u00a0n\u00eb\u00a0\u00a0sllavishten e vjet\u00ebr n\u00eb vitin\u00a0\u00a01366. Ky manastir vazhdon te eksistoi edhe sot me te njejtin em\u00ebr n\u00eb veri t\u00eb Tetov\u00ebs. N\u00eb dokument thuhet se &#8220;Prifti Mihon i fshatit &#8220;Debrisht\u00eb&#8221; \u00a0t\u00eb Pollogut na ka l\u00ebn\u00eb nj\u00eb sh\u00ebnim\u00a0\u00a0p\u00ebr Vjosav\u00ebn, t\u00eb bin\u00eb e mbretit t\u00eb pollogut, me emrin G\u00ebrguri, se ajo i ka dhuruar Manastirit &#8220;Leshka&#8221;\u00a0 nj\u00eb pyll\u00eb t\u00eb madh me lisa&#8221;. (\u201cStari srpski zapisi, L. Stojanoviq,\u00a0Beograd,1982)<\/p>\n<p>Profesori im i nderuar dhe kund\u00ebrshtari im shum\u00eb i madh rreth origjin\u00ebs s\u00eb n\u00ebn\u00ebs s\u00eb Sk\u00ebnderbeut, Boban Petreski, duke hulumtuar burime t\u00eb shumta si; B\u00eblgarski starini od Makedonija nga I.Ivanov; Q. Radoji\u00e7iq \u2013 Ko je podigao manastir Zaum; M. Diniq, Oblast Brankoviqa,; R. Mihalqiq, Kraj srpskog carstva,; M. Shuica, O Cezaru Gerguru, q\u00eb t\u00eb jet\u00eb sa m\u00eb i fuqish\u00ebm n\u00eb tez\u00ebn e tij, se Vjosava eshte me origjin\u00eb sllave,\u00a0\u00a0m\u00eb b\u00ebri nj\u00eb sh\u00ebrbim shum\u00eb t\u00eb madh dhe un\u00eb\u00a0\u00a0nuk duhej t\u00eb lodhem edhe aq\u00eb shum\u00eb por vet\u00ebm t\u00eb analizoj burimet q\u00eb i kisha n\u00eb disponim nga ai e t\u00eb cilat burime tash mundet ti analizoi edhe Mustafa Nano.<\/p>\n<p>N\u00eb baz\u00eb t\u00eb burimeve, ai ka v\u00ebrtetuar se Tribalda \u00ebsht\u00eb mbiem\u00ebr personal i Vjosav\u00ebs dhe familjes s\u00eb saj\u00eb dhe nuk ka t\u00eb b\u00ebj\u00eb me at\u00eb se ajo dhe babai G\u00ebrguri i kan takuar fisit t\u00eb Tribal\u00ebve i cili fis ka qen\u00eb thrrakas dhe asnjiher\u00eb nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb shtrir\u00eb n\u00eb Pollog.<\/p>\n<p>Dhe ne, si q\u00eb e analizuam dhe e deshifruam emrin G\u00ebrgur, n\u00ebp\u00ebr mes t\u00eb shqipes mund ta deshifrojm\u00eb edhe mbiemrin Tribalda e q\u00eb ka p\u00ebr kuptim token e lagur, &#8220;te balda&#8221;, &#8220;tri baldat&#8221; te rruga e bald\u00ebs; toponime k\u00ebto q\u00eb edhe sot i hasim n\u00eb vend\u00ebbanimet shqiptare dhe ne t\u00eb shumt\u00ebn e rasteve jan\u00eb p\u00ebrdorur edhe si mbiemra vet\u00ebm tek shqiptar\u00ebt.<\/p>\n<p>Pra sipas mbiemrit q\u00eb ka p\u00ebrdorur n\u00ebna e Sk\u00ebnderbeut, Vjosava Tribalda, v\u00ebrtetohet\u00a0\u00a0se ajo ka qen\u00eb me origjin\u00eb shqiptare, sepse mbiemri i saj\u00eb mund t\u00eb deshifrohet dhe spjegohet vet\u00ebm p\u00ebrmes gjuh\u00ebs shqipe.<\/p>\n<p>Argumenti i dyt\u00eb q\u00eb bie Petreski e q\u00eb e ka marr\u00eb p\u00ebr baz\u00eb edhe Nano, \u00ebsh\u00eb ai se ajo ka qen\u00eb e bia e G\u00ebrgurit, mbretit t\u00eb Pollogut, i cili pohim \u00ebsht\u00eb plot\u00ebsisht i pranuesh\u00ebm sepse eksistojn\u00eb dokumente shum\u00eb t\u00eb fuqishme, se me t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb n\u00eb koh\u00ebn p\u00ebr t\u00eb cil\u00ebn na flasim, mbret i Pologut ka qen\u00eb G\u00ebrguri, por ajo nuk i ndihmon as Petreskit e as Nanos, sepse emri G\u00ebrgur nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb i origjin\u00ebs sllave dhe asnj\u00ebher\u00eb nuk esht\u00eb p\u00ebrdorur nga sllav\u00ebt. Edhe sot n\u00eb lindje t\u00eb Pollogut eksiston fshati shqiptar me emrin ,,Gorgurnic\u00eb,, q\u00eb esht\u00eb emri i princit shqiptar, G\u00ebrguri\u2026 ku ka qen\u00eb qendra apo k\u00ebshtjella e principat\u00ebs s\u00eb tij.<\/p>\n<p>Ja\u00a0\u00a0edhe disa \u00a0burime Osmane q\u00eb i kam gjetur e p\u00ebrk\u00ebthyer n\u00eb Arhivin e Stambollit e q\u00eb Petreskit e Mustafa Nano nuk i kan p\u00ebr zem\u00ebr dhe nuk i pranojn\u00eb.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Oru\u00e7 Bin Adil<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00cbsht\u00eb autor i njer\u00ebs nga historit\u00eb m\u00eb t\u00eb vjetra\u00a0\u00a0t\u00eb shtetit osman \u201cTevari el Osman\u201d, (Historit\u00eb Osmane). T\u00eb gjetura n\u00eb Oksford dhe n\u00eb Kembrixh dhe botuar nga Franc Babinger me titullin \u201cDie Fruhosmanicshen Jaherbucher des Urudsch\u201d,\u00a0Hanover\u00a01925. Uru\u00e7 kur shkruan p\u00ebr betejat e shumta kund\u00ebr Sk\u00ebnderbeut, n\u00eb faqe 96 t\u00eb vepr\u00ebs s\u00eb tij nuk e prmend Rumelin\u00eb, si q\u00eb quhej pjesa evropjane e Perandoris\u00eb Osmane por ai e potencon shum\u00eb kjart\u00eb se sulltani shkoi t\u00eb luftonte kund\u00ebr shqiptarit (arnautit) Iskender, n\u00eb tokat shqiptare, ose vendin e shqiptar\u00ebve (Arnavud ilinden) dhe jo n\u00eb Maqedoni,Greqi ose Serbi.<\/p>\n<p>N\u00eb faqe 115, tokat shqiptare\u00a0\u00a0Oru\u00e7 i p\u00ebrmend edhe si Vilajeti i Shqipatr\u00ebve (Arnavud vilajetine). \u201cI\u00a0\u00a0biri i Evrenoz Beut, thot\u00eb ai,\u00a0\u00a0mb\u00eblodhi ushtrin\u00eb dhe akinxhijt\u00eb e Rumelis\u00eb dhe hyri n\u00eb vilajetin e shqiptar\u00ebve q\u00eb mbrohej nga shqiptari Iskender\u201d<\/p>\n<p>N\u00eb faqe 121 thot\u00eb se \u201cSulltan Murati II d\u00ebrgoi akinxhijt\u00eb kund\u00ebr vilajetit t\u00eb shqiptar\u00ebve dhe pushtoi k\u00ebshtjell\u00ebn e Sfetigradit. Mbreti i\u00a0shqiptar\u00ebve Iskenderi u arratis\u2026\u201d.\u00a0\u00a0N\u00eb original \u00ebsht\u00eb\u00a0\u00a0\u201cArnavud begi Iskender\u201d ku potencohet shum\u00eb kjart\u00eb se Iskenderi ishte sundimtari (mbreti) i shqiptar\u00ebve dhe jo i serb\u00ebve, bullgar\u00ebve, grek\u00ebve, boshnjak\u00ebve, hungar\u00ebz\u00ebve, popuj t\u00eb cil\u00ebt poashtu ishin n\u00eb luft\u00eb m\u00eb sulltanin.<\/p>\n<p>N\u00eb faqe 123 Oru\u00e7 potencon se\u00a0\u00a0\u201cSulltan Murati II zbriti n\u00eb tokat e Gjuvanit (Gjon Kastriotit), ku e pla\u00e7kiti Vilajetin\u00a0\u00a0Shqiptar\u00eb, dhe\u00a0\u00a0sulmoi Kruj\u00ebn (Ak\u00e7e Hisar) por nuk mundi ta merrte\u00a0\u00a0at\u00eb sepse mbrohej nga shqiptar\u00ebt t\u00eb komanduar nga Iskenderi\u2026.\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Nga kjo kuptojm\u00eb se p\u00ebrve\u00e7 \u201cJuvan Ili\u201d (tokes s\u00eb Gjonit ose Principat\u00ebs s\u00eb Gjonit) ka pasur edhe principata tjera shqiptare e q\u00eb p\u00ebrmenden si Vilajeti i Shqiptar\u00ebve (arnavud vilajeti).<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kronikat Anonime Osmane.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00cbsht\u00eb fjala p\u00ebr vepr\u00ebn me titull \u201cTevarih El Osmaan\u201d e cila p\u00ebrmb\u00ebledh nj\u00eb num\u00ebr t\u00eb shumt\u00eb kronikash anonime t\u00eb shkruara n\u00eb fund t\u00eb sh.15 dhe fillimi i sh.16. K\u00ebto kronika jan\u00eb analizuar dhe botuar nga Franc Giese, me titull: \u201cDie altosmanischen anonymen Chroniken\u201d, 1922, Bruksell.<\/p>\n<div class=\"text-iamge\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.botasot.info\/media\/botasot.info\/images\/2017\/July\/24\/auto_821500899187.jpg\" alt=\"Image\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.botasot.info\/fotogaleria\/735506\/nena-e-skenderbeut-vjosava-tribalda-ishte-puro-shqiptare-nga-pollogu-i-ilirides\/\"><span class=\"gall-icon\">FOTO GALERI<\/span><\/a><\/div>\n<p>Faqe 65, p\u00ebrmenden tokat e Gjon Kastriotit si toka shqiptare ku thuhet se: \u201cSulltan Murati II\u00a0\u00a0\u2026.b\u00ebri nj\u00eb luft\u00eb t\u00eb madhe ku sulmoi tokat dhe k\u00ebshtjellat e Gjonit. (Endene Juvaan Ilerin ve kahlerin fet\u00ebhun Etedin).<\/p>\n<p>Edhe kronikat anonime osmane, Sk\u00ebnderbeun e quajn\u00eb si\u00a0\u00a0\u201cMbreti i shqiptar\u00ebve\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Faqe 70: \u201cSulltan Murati kreu fushat\u00eb kund\u00ebr tokave t\u00eb Juvanit (Gjonit) dhe vilajeteve tjera shqiptare\u201d. Dmth principatave tjera shqiptare.<\/p>\n<p>Faqe 125, \u201cShqiptar\u00ebt n\u00eb tokat e tyre kishin ngritur kulla n\u00eb vendet e thepisura dhe n\u00eb majat e maleve. Rrug\u00ebt ishin aq t\u00eb pakaluara sa edhe sorrat nuk mund t\u00eb fluturonin mbi to. Bile edhe djalli me shkop nuk do t\u00eb mund t\u00eb hynte n\u00eb tokat e tyre\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Faqe 126. &#8220;Kur sulltani iu drjtua vendit t\u00eb shqiptar\u00ebve, Iskenderi u arratis nga Durr\u00ebsi n\u00eb drejtim t\u00eb frengut (Italis\u00eb)&#8221;. K\u00ebtu b\u00ebhet fjal\u00eb p\u00ebr momentin kur Sk\u00ebnderbeu shkoi n\u00eb Itali p\u00ebr t\u00eb k\u00ebrkuar ndihm\u00eb dhe ata nuk e ndihmuan.<\/p>\n<p>Edhe nj\u00ebher\u00eb m\u00eb duhet t\u00eb potencoj se shkrimi esht\u00eb ber\u00eb kryek\u00ebput kund\u00ebr tezave sllave, ku potencohet se Sk\u00ebnderbeu ishte me origjin\u00eb serbe dhe se n\u00ebna tij ka qen\u00eb me origjin\u00eb sllavomaqedone; dhe ky shkrim plot\u00ebsisht vlen edhe kund\u00ebr Mustafa Nanos se edhe tezat e tij jan\u00eb t\u00eb bazuara kryekj\u00ebput n\u00eb ata sllav.<\/p>\n<p><em>Autori \u00ebsht\u00eb specialist i periudhes s\u00eb Kastriotit<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>NGA: DR. SC. 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