{"id":37337,"date":"2019-01-21T10:57:35","date_gmt":"2019-01-21T09:57:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.fjala.info\/?p=37337"},"modified":"2019-01-21T10:59:30","modified_gmt":"2019-01-21T09:59:30","slug":"filmi-fantazmat-e-gojes-kur-kisha-persekutonte-si-komunizmi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jehonashqiptare.al\/fjala\/filmi-fantazmat-e-gojes-kur-kisha-persekutonte-si-komunizmi\/","title":{"rendered":"Filmi &#8220;Fantazmat e Goj\u00ebs&#8221; &#8211; kur kisha persekutonte si komunizmi&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_30348\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-30348\" style=\"width: 120px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-30348\" src=\"https:\/\/www.fjala.info\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/arben_cokaj.jpg\" alt=\"Arben \u00c7okaj\" width=\"120\" height=\"154\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-30348\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Arben \u00c7okaj<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>Arben \u00c7okaj<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Filmi &#8220;Fantazmat e Goj\u00ebs&#8221;<\/strong> b\u00ebn fjal\u00eb p\u00ebr inkuizicionin e kish\u00ebs katolike n\u00eb Spanj\u00eb, para Revolucionit Francez.<\/p>\n<p>Nj\u00eb familje e pasur kishte nj\u00eb vajz\u00eb, rolin e luan Natalia Portman. Ajo shkon n\u00eb nj\u00eb bujtin\u00eb dhe aty dy fuksa t\u00eb kish\u00ebs v\u00ebn\u00eb re se ajo vajza e bukur nuk e ha mishin e derrit.<\/p>\n<p>E padisin dhe t\u00eb nes\u00ebrmen e th\u00ebrret inkuizicioni. Aty vajz\u00ebn e shkret\u00eb e torturojn\u00eb, derisa ajo pranon se e ka origjin\u00ebn \u00e7ifute dhe se po kryen ritet e ndaluara \u00e7ifute. E d\u00ebnojn\u00eb me burg.<\/p>\n<p>Babai i pasur i saj i k\u00ebrkon ndihm\u00eb piktorit Francisko Goja, q\u00eb t\u00eb flas\u00eb me nj\u00eb prift me influenc\u00eb, At\u00eb Lorencin, q\u00eb po i b\u00ebnte portretin dhe nj\u00eb dit\u00eb piktori me priftin shkojn\u00eb n\u00eb sht\u00ebpin\u00eb e treg\u00ebtarit t\u00eb pasur p\u00ebr dark\u00eb.<\/p>\n<p>Aty i b\u00ebjn\u00eb kurth priftit, i thon\u00eb se vajza ka qen\u00eb e ndershme dhe katolike, dhe se pohimin ajo e ka b\u00ebr\u00eb, sepse e keni torturuar. Prifti thot\u00eb se Zoti t\u00eb jep forc\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb duruar dhimbjet, prandaj ajo q\u00eb pohohet pas torturave merret si e v\u00ebrtet\u00eb.<\/p>\n<p>Po mir\u00eb i tha i ati i vajz\u00ebs, sikur t\u00eb torturojn\u00eb ty, a thua kishe pranuar se je bir i majmunit dhe i orangutangut, e se ke hy n\u00eb kish\u00eb p\u00ebr ta prishur at\u00eb? Apo mendon se Zoti t\u00eb jep forc\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb duruar?<\/p>\n<p>E torturojn\u00eb priftin Lorenco dhe ai pranon e firmos letr\u00ebn, ku shkruhej se ai \u00ebsht\u00eb biri i majmunit&#8230; I jep treg\u00ebtari edhe nj\u00eb shum\u00eb t\u00eb madhe parash p\u00ebr restaurimin e nj\u00eb manastiri, vet\u00ebm q\u00eb t\u2019ia lironin vajz\u00ebn. Prifti provoi, por pa sukses. Prifti pati sukses vet\u00ebm se e kapi vajz\u00ebn n\u00eb burg dhe e la shtatzan\u00eb.<\/p>\n<p>Kur vajz\u00ebn nuk e liruan \u201ckomunist\u00ebt\u201d e kish\u00ebs, i ati i vajz\u00ebs ia dor\u00ebzoi letr\u00ebn mbretit t\u00eb Spanj\u00ebs, duke i th\u00ebn\u00eb se vajz\u00ebn ia kishin detyruar t\u00eb pohonte di\u00e7ka t\u00eb pav\u00ebrtet\u00eb, dhe ia kishin d\u00ebnuar pa faj. Ja psh. k\u00ebshtu edhe prifti Lorenco ka pranuar t\u00eb n\u00ebnshkruaj nj\u00eb let\u00ebr absurde&#8230; Mbreti vet\u00ebm qeshte&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Sapo Lorenco e mori vesh, u arratis p\u00ebr n\u00eb Franc\u00eb. Atje ai u bashkua me ushtrin\u00eb e Napolonit dhe erdh\u00ebn e mor\u00ebn pushtetin n\u00eb Spanj\u00eb. Pas 15 vjet\u00ebsh n\u00eb burg, vajz\u00ebn e gjor\u00eb e liruan. E kjo k\u00ebtu \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb foto e saj pas lirimit. T\u00eb bij\u00ebn q\u00eb kishte lindur n\u00eb burg, ia kishin b\u00ebr\u00eb murgesh\u00eb, por ajo kishte ikur e ishte b\u00ebr\u00eb prostitut\u00eb n\u00eb mosh\u00ebn 15-16 vje\u00e7are.<\/p>\n<p>K\u00ebshtu si komunizmi, ia rr\u00ebnoi jet\u00ebn feja katolike nj\u00eb vajze t\u00eb gjor\u00eb, pa b\u00ebr\u00eb asgj\u00eb. Vet\u00ebm se ishte e bukur dhe fuksat e kish\u00ebs e pat\u00ebn zili&#8230; si sigurimi i shtetit tek ne.<\/p>\n<p>Nd\u00ebrsa disa miq t\u00eb mi kujtojn\u00eb se vet\u00ebm komunizmi ka b\u00ebr\u00eb krime, e ka krijuar njeriun e ri?! Po inkuizicioni i krishter\u00eb, \u00e7far\u00eb ishte?! Ka k\u00ebrkuar falje Vatikani &#8211; m\u00eb tha nj\u00ebri nj\u00eb her\u00eb&#8230; E pastaj? A beson kush n\u00eb komuniz\u00ebm, n\u00ebse k\u00ebrkon falje dikush a?! :p<\/p>\n<p>Pik\u00ebrisht p\u00ebr t\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb krahasim, e b\u00ebra k\u00ebt\u00eb postim. E p\u00ebr t\u00eb kujtuar se sot kemi nj\u00eb sistem demokratik, e duhet gjetur rruga p\u00ebr t\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb nj\u00eb shtet funksional e t\u00eb zhvilluar. E kjo b\u00ebhet vet\u00ebm me shkollim e dije e duke punuar fort, jo duke e vjedh\u00eb e abuzuar&#8230;<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>Komente nga Agon Gjergj Dragaj<\/strong>:<br \/>\nArben \u00c7okaj ben nje gare se kush paska bere me shume krime? krimi si kunder pergjigje i krimit eshte nje fallsitet llogjik argumentativ.<br \/>\n&#8212;<br \/>\nTani pohimi qe frika do te nxite te besosh ne gjera apo jo, apo do u perdorej si mjete i nenshtrimit dhe sundimit eshte i vertete por kjo perfshihet ne \u00e7do botekuptim, ide apo menyre jetese ose qendrimi! te jete kjo fakt nuk e ben Fene te zymte ne thelb.<br \/>\n&#8212;<br \/>\nKetu ka nje sofizem non-sequitur sepse premisi nuk arrin ne kete perfundimin tend detyrimisht, po ashtu nje argument psiko-analitik! nje konciderat shume e dobet ne fushen e racionalizmit dhe argumentit-kunderargumentit.<br \/>\n&#8212;<br \/>\nMe kriterin e nenshtrimit tend kjo i aplikohet po ashtu Komunizmit dhe \u00e7do sistemi totalitar si dikur teokracia e Vatikanit! Edhe nen komunizem \u00e7onim kundershtaret neper gjoja spitale te metave mendore dhe i benim si jo te afte ose per te sjellur pershtypjen, qe nje mendim i ketille vetem nje qe nuk ka ndergjegje e pohon (perve\u00e7 kuptohet kampeve apo gulageve&#8230; internimeve, torturave etj.)<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>P\u00ebrgjigjia ime<\/strong>:<\/p>\n<p>Po t\u00eb kthej nj\u00eb p\u00ebrgjigje p\u00ebr t\u00eb gjith\u00eb mesazhet, se e shoh se po mundohesh me sofiz\u00ebm, p\u00ebr me justifikua krimet e kish\u00ebs.<\/p>\n<p>E para, komunizmi erdhi n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri n\u00eb nj\u00eb moment, kur ishte nj\u00eb rezistenc\u00eb e p\u00ebrgjith\u00ebshme anti-fashiste. Edhe n\u00eb Franc\u00eb, Ben Oroshi ka par\u00eb se kan\u00eb ekzekutuar femra, q\u00eb i sh\u00ebrbyen fashizmit e nazismit&#8230; Po n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri? Pra, mos t\u00eb k\u00ebrkojm\u00eb qiqrra n\u00eb hell\u00eb.<\/p>\n<p>E dyta, n\u00eb luft\u00eb u ngrit\u00ebn edhe t\u00eb rinj e t\u00eb reja, q\u00eb donin nj\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri t\u00eb lir\u00eb nga pushtuesi. E n\u00ebse n\u00eb male, partizanet b\u00ebn\u00eb edhe dashuri, b\u00ebjn\u00eb vajzat edhe sot ashtu, pa dal\u00eb n\u00eb mal fare. Tani a duhet me hy n\u00eb moralin komunist e me th\u00ebn\u00eb, ja shiko edhe k\u00ebta e thyen moralin, a si? Vet\u00ebm p\u00ebr me gjet\u00eb hala diku?<\/p>\n<p>E treta, kisha e xhamia jan\u00eb produkt jo shqiptar, i imponuar n\u00eb koh\u00eb t\u00eb ndryshme nga pushtues e sundimtar\u00eb t\u00eb ndrysh\u00ebm. Tani ne si shqiptar\u00eb, a duhet t\u00eb mbajm\u00eb m\u00eb shum\u00eb veglat hebraike-arabe, pra fet\u00eb, si\u00e7 po i mbron edhe ti, apo ato gj\u00ebra shqiptare q\u00eb i kemi tonat dhe na interesojn\u00eb m\u00eb shum\u00eb?<\/p>\n<p>E kat\u00ebrta, un\u00eb jam anti-komunist e anti \u00e7do ideologjie q\u00eb privon lirin\u00eb e njer\u00ebzve ose p\u00ebrdor dhun\u00eb e posht\u00ebrsi p\u00ebr t\u00eb ushtruar sundimin e vet. Por nuk jam i tredhur n\u00eb tru, me sha kot, p\u00ebrpiqem t\u00eb vler\u00ebsoj objektivisht. N\u00ebse komunizmi ra, ra se nuk mund ekzistonte m\u00eb. Iku. A merremi gjith\u00eb jet\u00ebn tani me t\u00eb? Un\u00eb e kam dh\u00ebn\u00eb kontributin tim n\u00eb koh\u00ebn e duhur, m\u00eb shum\u00eb se ti e shum\u00eb t\u00eb tjer\u00eb, q\u00eb b\u00ebjn\u00eb sot si anti-komunist\u00eb pas pilafit. Kurse feja edhe pse erdhi n\u00eb vendet e Per\u00ebndimit duke u &#8220;zbutur&#8221;, ka raste kur kemi krime seksuale e pedofili plot, edhe sot. Pra, krimet e abuzimet vazhdojn\u00eb, e besimtar\u00ebt ende besojn\u00eb. Kurse komunizmi ra, nuk po e mbron kush. Se mbrojtja dmth. se po mbron ideologjin\u00eb e saj, m\u00ebnyr\u00ebn e ushtrimit t\u00eb pushtetit p\u00ebrmes saj. Sot n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri nuk ka komuniz\u00ebm, por ka hallakatje fetare e iluzionare. Ka anarki e nj\u00eb shtet, q\u00eb nuk e ushtron si duhet ligjhshm\u00ebrin\u00eb vet.<\/p>\n<p>E pesta, sa p\u00ebr racionalizmin, filon me Platonin, te &#8220;Republika&#8221; e tij, sa po zbatohet ajo n\u00eb shoq\u00ebrin\u00eb ton\u00eb. A po p\u00ebllet m\u00eb shum\u00eb eZani arab e zhurmon kumona e kish\u00ebs? A po p\u00ebrdorin shqiptar\u00ebt m\u00eb shum\u00eb logjik\u00ebn e arsyen, shkollimin e dijen? Cilin vend e ka nd\u00ebrtuar psh. feja, q\u00eb ti ta mbrosh at\u00eb si me k\u00ebto mesazhe impulsive. N\u00ebse un\u00eb them realitetin, p\u00ebr komunizmin e sistemin e sot\u00ebm, un\u00eb i them duke u bazuar mbi nj\u00eb gjykim objektiov. Nuk ke komuniz\u00ebm t\u00eb ushtruar n\u00eb shoq\u00ebrin\u00eb ton\u00eb sot, m\u00eb shum\u00eb ke norma social-komuniste t\u00eb aplikuara n\u00eb Evrop\u00eb e n\u00eb vendet e BE-s\u00eb. Njeriu i ri, p\u00ebr gjykimin tim ishte m\u00eb i ndersh\u00ebm e m\u00eb me dinjitet, se njeriu i sot\u00ebm. Dhe n\u00eb fund, mund t\u00eb pohoj, se komunizxmi b\u00ebri shtet shqiptar n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri, e sot nuk po mundemi ta b\u00ebjm\u00eb shtetin. Dhe sapo synojm\u00eb t\u00eb zbatojm\u00eb ligjet n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb vend, ne na kujtohet shteti i Enverit&#8230; Pse? Se vet\u00ebm ai ka b\u00ebr\u00eb shtet shqiptar deri tani n\u00eb historin\u00eb Shqip\u00ebris\u00eb, nuk njoh raste tjera, kur kemi patur shtet funksional shqiptar si n\u00eb koh\u00ebn e komunizmit. E kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb edhe fatkeq\u00ebsia jon\u00eb, se tregon edhe dob\u00ebsin\u00eb ton\u00eb si shoq\u00ebrri, q\u00eb i bindet vet\u00ebm diktatit. Pavar\u00ebsisht se nj\u00eb pjes\u00eb e ligjeve t\u00eb asaj kohe ishin t\u00eb paarsyeshme e irracionale dhe soll\u00ebn padyshim krime e d\u00ebme, shteti komunist kishte organizim e funksionin shtet\u00eboir m\u00eb efektiv se sot. Por n\u00ebse ne e vler\u00ebsojm\u00eb objektivisht, e jo me paragjykime, apo me ndikime t\u00eb tjera rrethanore.<\/p>\n<p>E gjashta, Pas r\u00ebnies s\u00eb komunizmit, propaganduesit e fes\u00eb than\u00eb, &#8220;komunizmi ra se nuk pranoi zotin&#8221;. Po sot, q\u00eb kemi 28 vjet me kisha e xhamia zhurmuese, pse nuk po b\u00ebhemi? Sot thuhet nga sofist\u00ebt fetar\u00eb se nuk po b\u00ebhemi, pasi e ka fajin njeriu i ri. K\u00ebt\u00eb nuk e shpiku Ben Oroshi, etj. jo, se nuk \u00ebsh\u00eb ideolog. Ai e d\u00ebgjon diku, te ndonj\u00eb Dom Gjergj Met\u00eb, apo Muhamed Sytar, duke th\u00ebn\u00eb k\u00ebshtu, dhe e amplifikon m\u00eb pas, si di\u00e7ka absolute. Por kur e gjykon nj\u00eb veprim, duhet ta gjykosh nga pik\u00ebpamje objektive t\u00eb nj\u00eb analize faktike, e jo futja kot. Njeriu i ri i komunizmit m\u00eb 1990 ishte m\u00eb i mir\u00eb dhe m\u00eb i ndersh\u00ebm se njeriu i sot\u00ebm, edhe pse i varf\u00ebr&#8230; At\u00ebher\u00eb kush e prishi k\u00ebt\u00eb shqiptar? Nuk po e them se e prishi feja. Por feja nuk nd\u00ebrton shtet. \u00cbsht\u00eb veprimtari iluzionare e jo-produktive, prandaj ne duhet t\u00eb synojm\u00eb forcimin e shtetit e fen\u00eb ta l\u00ebm\u00eb p\u00ebr ata q\u00eb duan t\u00eb besojn\u00eb. Mentaliteti dominant i shqiptar\u00ebve \u00ebsht\u00eb turqeliko-islamik, p\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb pushtimit t\u00eb gjat\u00eb turk e islamizimit. Ky mentalitet ndikon padyshim edhe n\u00eb kultur\u00ebn e zhvilimin e nj\u00eb vendi. Ne nuk b\u00ebhemi, se nuk ka asnj\u00eb vend me shumic\u00eb muslimane, demokratik e t\u00eb zhvilluar. E nuk po na pengon njeriu i ri, q\u00eb n\u00eb fakt sot nuk ekziston n\u00eb ato koncepte, q\u00eb deshi t&#8217;i krijonte komunizmi. Shteti tek ne e ka problemin, se po mblidhen n\u00eb drejtimin e shtetit hajmat, pushtat e abuzuesit. Kjo e ka \u00e7uar shoq\u00ebrin\u00eb ton\u00eb drejt rr\u00ebnimit, e shp\u00ebtimin nuk e gjejm\u00eb te feja, se po u mor\u00ebm me fe, na dominon islami. Shp\u00ebtimin e gjejm\u00eb te forcimi i shtetit dhe institucioneve, te kontrolli i parave publike, e m\u00eb gjer\u00eb! Q\u00eb fillomn me shkollimin e dijen&#8230; Pasi e keqja e \u00e7do gj\u00ebje, vjen nga padija!<\/p>\n<p>etj. etj.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Arben \u00c7okaj Filmi &#8220;Fantazmat e Goj\u00ebs&#8221; b\u00ebn fjal\u00eb p\u00ebr inkuizicionin e kish\u00ebs katolike n\u00eb Spanj\u00eb, para Revolucionit Francez. Nj\u00eb familje e pasur kishte nj\u00eb vajz\u00eb, rolin e luan Natalia Portman. Ajo shkon n\u00eb nj\u00eb bujtin\u00eb dhe aty dy fuksa t\u00eb kish\u00ebs v\u00ebn\u00eb re se ajo vajza e bukur nuk e ha mishin e derrit. 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