{"id":37439,"date":"2019-01-23T20:52:58","date_gmt":"2019-01-23T19:52:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.fjala.info\/?p=37439"},"modified":"2019-01-24T10:12:41","modified_gmt":"2019-01-24T09:12:41","slug":"perfaqesimi-i-katolikeve-ne-politike-shume-diskriminues","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jehonashqiptare.al\/fjala\/perfaqesimi-i-katolikeve-ne-politike-shume-diskriminues\/","title":{"rendered":"P\u00cbRFAQ\u00cbSIMI I KATOLIK\u00cbVE N\u00cb POLITIK\u00cb &#8211; SHUM\u00cb DISKRIMINUES"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Arben \u00c7okaj<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A ishte Bushati minist\u00ebr i jasht\u00ebm, po si dreqin, 10% ambasadora e staf diplomatik t\u00eb pakt\u00ebn, katolik\u00eb, duhej t\u2019i \u00e7onte?! Kjo \u00e7far\u00eb po ndodh tek ne \u00ebsht\u00eb \u00e7menduri!<\/p>\n<p>Edhe PD n\u00eb kryesi, nuk p\u00ebrfaq\u00ebsohet me katolik\u00eb n\u00eb p\u00ebrqindjen q\u00eb duhet t\u00eb ket\u00eb.<\/p>\n<p>Nj\u00eb katolik desh\u00ebn ta b\u00ebnin minist\u00ebr t\u00eb brendsh\u00ebm, edhe ai me nj\u00eb mij\u00eb pengesa hyri n\u00eb fund!<\/p>\n<p>Jemi shqiptar\u00eb, por raportet e komuniteteve duhen par\u00eb, p\u00ebr t\u00eb ruajtur toleranc\u00ebn.<\/p>\n<p>Shikoni at\u00eb q\u00eb ndodh n\u00eb Kosov\u00eb, po t\u00eb mos kishte r\u00ebnd\u00ebsi p\u00ebrfaq\u00ebsimi, pse e detyrojn\u00eb Kuvendin e Kosov\u00ebs me pas\u00eb 10 deputet\u00eb serb\u00eb e 10 deputet\u00eb nga pakicat e tjera?! Dhe pavar\u00ebsisht qeveris\u00eb q\u00eb formohet, gjithmon\u00eb nj\u00eb minist\u00ebr serb u duhet ta v\u00ebn\u00eb!<\/p>\n<p>Edhe n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri, nuk duhet t\u00eb n\u00ebnkuptohen k\u00ebto gj\u00ebra, nuk duhet t\u00eb merren me mend, duhet t\u00eb ruhen raportet n\u00eb em\u00ebrimet n\u00eb administrat\u00eb dhe n\u00eb p\u00ebrfaq\u00ebsim! Se prishen k\u00ebto raporte, gradualusht edhe toleranca nd\u00ebr fetare d\u00ebmtohet!<\/p>\n<p>Po ka pretendime me ruajt\u00eb t\u00eb drejtat e mosdiskriminimit t\u00eb homoseksual\u00ebve, q\u00eb n\u00eb fund t\u00eb fundit nuk jan\u00eb invalid\u00eb, q\u00eb t\u00eb p\u00ebrfitojn\u00eb nga ligje t\u00eb ve\u00e7ante, e jo m\u00eb t\u00eb diskriminohen k\u00ebshtu komunitetet fetare?!<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>Koment nga Pal Shtufi<\/strong>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Arben, nuk m\u00eb p\u00eblqen kjo qasje. Madje po m\u00eb l\u00ebndon, besom! Natyrisht, ti ke t\u00eb drejt\u00ebn t\u00ebnde t\u00eb thuash mendimin t\u00ebnd, por n\u00ebse ke menduar q\u00eb po b\u00eb mir\u00eb me k\u00ebt\u00eb &#8220;zbulim&#8221;, dije q\u00eb jo.<\/p>\n<p>Ke b\u00eb analiz\u00eb e ke nxjerr\u00eb paralele sikur t\u00eb jen\u00eb nj\u00ebsoj pakicat nacionale me ato religjioze. Sidomos kjo paralelja me pakicen serbe n\u00eb Kosov\u00eb!<br \/>\nI b\u00ebra do vjet q\u00eb eci n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb bot\u00eb shqiptare, prandaj me p\u00ebrgjegj\u00ebsi t\u00eb lart\u00eb ta them se k\u00ebt\u00eb lloj diskriminimi nuk e gjen n\u00eb Kosov\u00eb e aq m\u00eb pak n\u00eb Shqiperi. Mund t\u00eb jen\u00eb nj\u00ebmij\u00eb arsye tjera, por kurr\u00eb nj\u00eb diskriminim i q\u00ebllimsh\u00ebm. Un\u00eb nuk po t&#8217;i lavd\u00ebroj tani klasat politike, por m\u00eb duhet t\u00eb them se ky diskriminim nuk ekziston si i q\u00ebllimsh\u00ebm. Nga ato q\u00eb ke shkruar, t\u00eb gjitha mund t\u00eb jen\u00eb t\u00eb sakta, por asnj\u00ebher\u00eb &#8220;diskriminim i q\u00ebllimsh\u00ebm.&#8221; Maksimumi q\u00eb mund t\u00eb thuash, po, nj\u00eb pakujdesi shtes\u00eb, por jo m\u00eb shum\u00eb.<\/p>\n<p>E di pse reagova? Thjesht\u00eb me t\u00eb garantuq\u00eb nj\u00eb shqiptar i besimit katolik n\u00eb Kosov\u00eb, n\u00ebse do q\u00eb t\u00eb futet n\u00eb politik\u00eb, mund t\u00eb perjetoj\u00eb diskriminim pozitiv (as ky nuk m\u00eb pelqen) por kurr\u00ebsesi negativ. Shkakun e munges\u00ebs t\u00eb shqiptar\u00ebve katolik\u00eb n\u00eb skenen politike duhet k\u00ebrkuar diku tjet\u00ebr&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>N\u00ebse un\u00eb ndihem mir\u00eb i p\u00ebrfaq\u00ebsuar politikisht nga nj\u00eb shqiptar me em\u00ebr Hasan, kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb e mjaftueshme, sepse nj\u00eb tjet\u00ebr me em\u00ebr Simon, nuk dmth q\u00eb m\u00eb plot\u00ebson di\u00e7 m\u00eb shum\u00eb. E thjesht\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb kjo pun\u00eb. E kund\u00ebrta \u00ebsht\u00eb banale. Sorry, kjo qasje m\u00eb duket padrejt\u00ebsi e ushtruar mbi etnin\u00eb shqiptare.<\/p>\n<p>Largoje nga koka k\u00ebt\u00eb ide.<br \/>\nMiq\u00ebsisht<br \/>\nPali<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>P\u00ebrgjigjia ime<\/strong>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Ashtu si mendon ti, kemi ecuar n\u00eb fakt deri tani, por ky fenomen q\u00eb un\u00eb ngrita m\u00eb lart ka ardhur duke r\u00ebn\u00eb n\u00eb sy. A duhet ne ta diskutojm\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb, apo ta injorojm\u00eb? Mendoj se duhet diskutuar. Pse? Se ndryshe kam p\u00ebrshtypjen se vazhdon k\u00ebshtu. Dhe b\u00ebhet edhe m\u00eb keq.<\/p>\n<p>Modestisht un\u00eb kam b\u00ebr\u00eb gjith\u00eb jet\u00ebn nj\u00eb veprimtari komb\u00ebtare, aq sa kam b\u00ebr\u00eb, e kam b\u00ebr\u00eb p\u00ebr intereat e vendit e kombit tim. Kush m\u00eb njeh, mundet me e aprovua. Dhe t\u00eb gjith\u00eb ata q\u00eb m\u00eb njohin, e din\u00eb gjithashtu, se un\u00eb jam p\u00ebr shtetin nacional, ku fet\u00eb marrin nj\u00eb rol m\u00eb dyt\u00ebsor. Kjo p\u00ebr shkak se duam modelin e nj\u00eb shteti laik evropian, dhe e dyta, p\u00ebr shkak se po u mpor\u00ebm me fe, ne na dominon islami, e nuk ka shtet evropian apo t\u00eb zhvilluar e demokratik me shumic\u00eb muaslimane. K\u00ebt\u00eb duhet me e dit\u00eb edhe musliman\u00ebt shqiptar\u00eb, nuk po u b\u00ebn kush atyre ndonj\u00eb dredhi.<\/p>\n<p>Prandaj, mos t\u00eb b\u00ebjm\u00eb loj\u00ebn e budall\u00ebs, na paragjykojn\u00eb dhe n\u00ebse Bullgaria e Rumania ta z\u00ebm\u00eb, nuk po them Sllovenia e Kroacia, hyn\u00eb n\u00eb BE e ne jo, kjo ka ndodh\u00eb edhe p\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb islamit, q\u00eb na pengon n\u00eb dy plane kryesore. <em>E para<\/em>, se <strong>nuk na len mentaliteti turqeliko &#8211; islamik me u zhviliua<\/strong>, dhe <em>e dyta<\/em> se <strong>evropian\u00ebt na paragjykojn\u00eb<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Tani a \u00ebsht\u00eb Hasani i barabart\u00eb me Palin n\u00eb Evrop\u00eb? Po me Arbenin, q\u00eb nuk ka besim fetar, por sillet si Evropian? Edhe po, edhe jo! Para ligjit mundet me qen\u00eb t\u00eb barabart\u00eb t\u00eb gjith\u00eb, por jo para &#8216;Maliqit&#8217;. Se ka ligj, por ka edhe Maliq, q\u00eb e zbaton ligjin. Edhe n\u00eb Evrop\u00eb, ka paragjykime p\u00ebr fet\u00eb, edhe pse ndikimi fetar n\u00eb Evrop\u00eb, n\u00eb krahasim me vendet muslimane, apo n\u00eb krahasim me Shqip\u00ebrin\u00eb e Kosov\u00ebn, \u00ebsht\u00eb m\u00eb i vog\u00ebl. M\u00eb ka ndodh\u00eb n\u00eb Gjermani, disa t\u00eb njohur gjerman\u00eb, m\u00eb merrnin &#8220;shqiptar&#8221; e hajt, &#8220;musliman&#8221;. Kur u kam tregua bredhin me drita p\u00ebr Krishtlindje n\u00eb oborr, \u00ebsht\u00eb habit\u00eb Christian-i gjerman. E q\u00eb at\u00eb dit\u00eb m\u00eb shikon m\u00eb me respekt. Tani ne n\u00eb Evrop\u00eb po duam t\u00eb shkojm\u00eb, nuk krijon evropiani t\u00eb nj\u00ebjtin respekt dhe nuk sillet nj\u00eblloj n\u00eb mir\u00ebbesim, si me Hasanin e si me Palin. Prandaj, \u00ebsht\u00eb mir\u00eb q\u00eb edhe Hasani, k\u00ebt\u00eb me e dit\u00eb!<\/p>\n<p>Padtaj, a ke par\u00eb ti katolik\u00eb apo t\u00eb krishter\u00eb shqiptar\u00eb, q\u00eb b\u00ebjn\u00eb <strong>lista me musliman\u00eb<\/strong> etj. <strong>kristiano-fob\u00eb<\/strong>? Jo, deri sot, edhe pse, a shajn\u00eb pra disa musliman\u00eb, t\u00eb krishter\u00ebt e figurat tona komb\u00ebtare, a nuk e b\u00ebn kush, edhe ma shum\u00eb se serb\u00ebt! <strong>Por ka lista pra, nga musliman\u00ebt me gjoja islamofob\u00eb<\/strong>! A jan\u00eb listat e naziast\u00ebve k\u00ebto a? Ku i kemi organet e siguris\u00eb komb\u00ebtare, q\u00eb nuk reagojn\u00eb dhe nuk i ndjekin k\u00ebta spurdhjak\u00eb, q\u00eb duan ta p\u00ebrdorin fen\u00eb, p\u00ebr t\u00eb futur konflikte fetare nd\u00ebr shqiptar\u00eb? A ke par\u00eb ti t\u00eb krishter\u00eb nd\u00ebr shqiptar\u00eb, q\u00eb kan\u00eb marr\u00eb pjes\u00eb n\u00eb luft\u00ebra fetare, apo kan\u00eb vra edhe ndonj\u00eb ushtar amerikan, apo kan\u00eb marr\u00eb pjes\u00eb n\u00eb akte terroriste kund\u00ebr aleat\u00ebve tan\u00eb Per\u00ebndimor\u00eb? Jo, un\u00eb nuk kam par\u00eb e d\u00ebgjuar, sepse nuk ka! Por ka pas\u00eb raste, ku ndonj\u00eb musliman e ka b\u00ebr\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb! Dhe nuk duhet lejuar e ushqyer kjo tendenc\u00eb ekstremiste nd\u00ebr shqiptar\u00eb!<\/p>\n<p>Por ka musliman\u00eb t\u00eb indoktrinuar q\u00eb e b\u00ebjn\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb, q\u00eb shajn\u00eb figurat tona hiatorike etj. se i ka shkel\u00eb turku dikur dhe i ka islamizua. E kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb ekstreme, nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb e mir\u00eb dhe duhet penguar nga organet tona t\u00eb siguris\u00eb, t\u00eb cilat m\u00eb p\u00ebrndjekin mua realisht, dhe p\u00ebrndjekin njer\u00ebz q\u00eb punojn\u00eb p\u00ebr interesat tona komb\u00ebtare, aq sa b\u00ebjm\u00eb, dhe nuk i p\u00ebrndjekin k\u00ebta horra, q\u00eb e d\u00ebmtojn\u00eb kombin ton\u00eb, imazhin dhe interesat shqiptare.<\/p>\n<p>Prandaj e b\u00ebra k\u00ebt\u00eb reagim un\u00eb, se u ndikova nga disa reagime t\u00eb disa katoklik\u00ebve shqiptar\u00eb, t\u00eb cil\u00ebt me t\u00eb drejt\u00eb po e v\u00ebrejn\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb diskriminim, q\u00eb uroj t\u00eb jet\u00eb i paq\u00ebllimsh\u00ebm, por kur ndodh, mundet me zgjat\u00eb aq shum\u00eb, sa t\u00eb p\u00ebrjashton dhe nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb m\u00eb i paq\u00ebllimsh\u00ebm. E p\u00ebr ta penguar k\u00ebt\u00eb tendenc\u00eb negative, q\u00eb t\u00eb b\u00ebhet e q\u00ebllimshme, mendoj, dhe e theksoj me forc\u00eb, q\u00eb n\u00ebse ne duam toleranc\u00eb e shtet, ku t\u00eb krenohemi se si shqiptar\u00eb nuk kemi konflikte fetara, kjo vjen pra, vet\u00ebm kur ne me vet\u00ebdije, e jo pa q\u00ebllim, e respektojm\u00eb nj\u00ebri-tjetrin, dhe ia japim tjetrit at\u00eb pjes\u00eb nderimi e pushteti dhe p\u00ebrfaq\u00ebsimi, q\u00eb e meriron, sipas p\u00ebrqindjes s\u00eb popullsis\u00eb! Dhe i d\u00ebnojm\u00ebsi shoq\u00ebri aktet ekstremiste, q\u00eb b\u00ebhen n\u00eb em\u00ebr t\u00eb fes\u00eb!<\/p>\n<p>IOp\u00ebrmenda pakicat serbe etj. n\u00eb Koaov\u00eb, por edhe homoseksual\u00ebt, p\u00ebr me tregua, se ma shum\u00eb po tregohet kujdes p\u00ebr t&#8217;i respektuar ato, sesa shqiptar\u00ebt e besimit tjet\u00ebr. Nuk duhet me ndodh\u00eb kjo! Dhe uroj q\u00eb gradualisht ne si shoq\u00ebri t\u00eb vijm\u00eb drejt shtetin nacional, por duke i respektuar barabar komunitetet fetare, n\u00eb t\u00eb drejt\u00ebn e tyre t\u00eb p\u00ebrfaq\u00ebsimit politik dhe pun\u00ebsimit n\u00eb administrat\u00eb. Ndryshe e humbim ekuilibrin, e prandaj, un\u00eb reagova!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Arben \u00c7okaj A ishte Bushati minist\u00ebr i jasht\u00ebm, po si dreqin, 10% ambasadora e staf diplomatik t\u00eb pakt\u00ebn, katolik\u00eb, duhej t\u2019i \u00e7onte?! Kjo \u00e7far\u00eb po ndodh tek ne \u00ebsht\u00eb \u00e7menduri! Edhe PD n\u00eb kryesi, nuk p\u00ebrfaq\u00ebsohet me katolik\u00eb n\u00eb p\u00ebrqindjen q\u00eb duhet t\u00eb ket\u00eb. 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