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ELIF SHAFAK:
\nKEMI HARRUAR T\u00cb QESHIM! EUROPA I KA L\u00cbN\u00cb VLERAT E SAJ N\u00cb PRITJE<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Autorja turke Elif Shafak e sheh vendin e saj gjithnj\u00eb e m\u00eb autoritar, t\u00eb polarizuar dhe n\u00eb depresion. E si mos t\u00eb mjaftonte kjo, Elif \u00ebsht\u00eb e zhg\u00ebnjyer nga heshtja e intelektual\u00ebve.<\/em><\/p>\n

Gazeta Pasqyre.al sjell intervist\u00ebn e plot\u00eb autores s\u00eb romanit t\u00eb p\u00ebrkthyer edhe n\u00eb shqip, \u201cBastardja e Stambollit\u201d dh\u00ebn\u00eb p\u00ebr gazet\u00ebn gjermane SPIEGEL: Nj\u00eb rr\u00ebfim i jasht\u00ebzakonsh\u00ebm i nj\u00eb intelektualeeje, e cila n\u00eb vendin e saj jeton me frik\u00ebn t\u00eb thot\u00eb at\u00eb q\u00eb mendon, por edhe qoft\u00eb t\u00eb p\u00ebrdor imagjinat\u00ebn e saj n\u00eb krijimtarin\u00eb letrare.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n


\nSPIEGEL: Zonja Shafak, ju jeni nga nj\u00eb vend ku nj\u00eb fjal\u00eb e gabuar mund t\u00eb t\u00eb \u00e7oj\u00eb n\u00eb gjykat\u00eb. A guxoni ende t\u00eb thoni dhe t\u00eb shkruani at\u00eb \u00e7far\u00eb ju mendoni?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Shafak<\/strong>: Fjal\u00ebt jan\u00eb t\u00eb r\u00ebnda n\u00eb Turqi dhe \u00e7do shkrimtar, \u00e7do poet dhe \u00e7do gazetar e di se, p\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb nj\u00eb fjale, p\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb nj\u00eb fjalie, p\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb nj\u00eb Twitteri, apo edhe t\u00eb nj\u00eb retweet, ju mund t\u00eb paditeni, ju mund t\u00eb demonizoheni nga media dhe ju mund t\u00eb p\u00ebrfundoni n\u00eb burg. Pra, kur kemi shkruar, e kemi shkruar me k\u00ebt\u00eb njohuri n\u00eb mendjen ton\u00eb. Dhe n\u00eb qoft\u00eb se dikush thot\u00eb: Un\u00eb nuk jam i prekur nga kjo, un\u00eb nuk do ta besoj at\u00eb person. E v\u00ebrteta \u00ebsht\u00eb se askush nuk mund t\u2019i shp\u00ebtoj\u00eb k\u00ebtij presioni. Dhe si rezultat, ka shum\u00eb vet\u00eb-censur\u00eb. Kur un\u00eb shkruaj opinione politike, po, un\u00eb mendoj me kujdes p\u00ebr ndikimin q\u00eb do t\u00eb ken\u00eb fjal\u00ebt e mia. Kur un\u00eb shkruaj fiction, kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb histori tjet\u00ebr. N\u00eb fiction tim, un\u00eb jam m\u00eb e pamatur. Nuk m\u00eb intereson bota reale, derisa t\u00eb kem mbaruar librin.<\/p>\n

SPIEGEL: N\u00eb vitin 2006, procedura ligjore u iniciuan kund\u00ebr jush p\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb asaj q\u00eb nj\u00eb nga personazhet kryesore n\u00eb librin tuaj, \u201cBastardja e Stambollit\u201d, thot\u00eb n\u00eb lidhje me genocidin armen. Edhe pse ju liruan, n\u00eb fund t\u00eb fundit, kjo tregon se edhe di\u00e7ka q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb fiction mund t\u00eb jet\u00eb e rrezikshme.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Shafak<\/strong>: Po, kjo ishte nj\u00eb p\u00ebrvoj\u00eb shum\u00eb, shum\u00eb surreale, sepse nj\u00eb pun\u00eb krijuese \u00ebsht\u00eb hedhur n\u00eb gjyq p\u00ebr her\u00eb t\u00eb par\u00eb. P\u00ebr mua, kjo ishte nj\u00eb p\u00ebrvoj\u00eb shum\u00eb demoralizuese. Jo vet\u00ebm p\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb gjykimit, por ka pasur edhe turma ultranacionaliste n\u00eb rrug\u00eb q\u00eb protestonin kund\u00ebr meje, duke p\u00ebshtyr\u00eb mbi fotot e mia e duke m\u00eb shar\u00eb mua. Por reagimi nga lexuesit e mi, ishte i mahnitsh\u00ebm. Ata m\u00eb mb\u00ebshtet\u00ebn, edhe pse ata vijn\u00eb nga t\u00eb gjitha background-et – ka konservator\u00eb dhe ithtar\u00eb t\u00eb sekularizmit, feministe dhe liberal\u00eb. K\u00ebshtu q\u00eb un\u00eb kam par\u00eb t\u00eb dyja an\u00ebt: kam par\u00eb q\u00eb ju mund t\u00eb keni telashe me librat tuaj n\u00eb Turqi, por n\u00eb t\u00eb nj\u00ebjt\u00ebn koh\u00eb kupton se librat kan\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb r\u00ebnd\u00ebsi.<\/p>\n

SPIEGEL: Dhjet\u00eb vjet m\u00eb von\u00eb, \u201cReporter\u00ebt pa Kufij\u201d, tani e renditin Turqin\u00eb n\u00eb vendin e 149-\u00ebt nga 180 vendet p\u00ebr lirin\u00eb e shtypit dhe ku disa gazetar\u00eb jan\u00eb arrestuar. Koh\u00ebt e fundit, dy redaktor\u00ebt e Cumhuriyet jan\u00eb marr\u00eb n\u00eb paraburgim p\u00ebr botimin e materialeve q\u00eb inkriminojn\u00eb qeverin\u00eb. \u00cbsht\u00eb liria e shtypit n\u00ebn k\u00ebrc\u00ebnim?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Shafak<\/strong>: Po, ajo \u00ebsht\u00eb n\u00ebn nj\u00eb k\u00ebrc\u00ebnim t\u00eb madh. Kam frik\u00eb q\u00eb kemi shkuar prapa, sa i p\u00ebrket liris\u00eb dhe diversitetit t\u00eb mediave. Pik\u00ebpamje t\u00eb ndryshme q\u00eb nuk tolerohen m\u00eb. Mendjet kritike jan\u00eb t\u00eb shtypura, t\u00eb frik\u00ebsuara. Dhe kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb vet\u00ebm duke u p\u00ebrkeq\u00ebsuar. \u00cbsht\u00eb nj\u00eb rr\u00ebshqitje shum\u00eb prapa dhe shum\u00eb e shpejt\u00eb. Nuk ka vet\u00ebm arrestime dhe gjykime. \u00c7\u00ebshtja tjet\u00ebr \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb gjendje depresioni e p\u00ebrhapur n\u00eb mesin e pjes\u00ebs s\u00eb liberal\u00ebve dhe laik\u00ebve t\u00eb shoq\u00ebris\u00eb. M\u00eb kujtohet nj\u00eb koh\u00eb kur s\u2019kishte asgj\u00eb t\u00eb keqe n\u00ebse ironizoje, talleshe me politikan\u00ebt dhe njer\u00ebzit e fuqish\u00ebm. Tani, kjo nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb m\u00eb n\u00eb rregull. Ne kemi harruar edhe si t\u00eb qeshim.<\/p>\n

SPIEGEL: Shum\u00eb njer\u00ebz n\u00eb Europ\u00eb nuk jan\u00eb t\u00eb qart\u00eb sesi ta shohin Erdoganin. A \u00ebsht\u00eb ai nj\u00eb sundimtar autoritar, nj\u00eb islamik, nj\u00eb nacionalist apo demokrat i d\u00ebshtuar?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Shafak<\/strong>: Un\u00eb do ta quaja at\u00eb nj\u00eb politikan autoritar, i cili \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb p\u00ebr\u00e7ar\u00ebs. Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb shoq\u00ebri e babait, patriarkale. Kjo fillon n\u00eb familje, vazhdon n\u00eb shkoll\u00eb, n\u00eb familje, n\u00eb rrug\u00eb. N\u00eb \u00e7do aspekt t\u00eb jet\u00ebs, duke p\u00ebrfshir\u00eb futbollin, shoq\u00ebria turke \u00ebsht\u00eb e orientuar n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb drejtim. Dhe mentaliteti yn\u00eb n\u00eb politik\u00eb nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb aq ndryshe. Un\u00eb mendoj se kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb pjes\u00eb e madhe e problemit: Politika jon\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb mashkullore, shum\u00eb agresive dhe \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb e polarizuar. Ritmi i k\u00ebtij zhvillimi \u00ebsht\u00eb rritur n\u00eb vitet e fundit. Erdogan, n\u00eb syt\u00eb e mi \u00ebsht\u00eb politikani m\u00eb polarizues n\u00eb historin\u00eb e re politike turke.<\/p>\n

SPIEGEL: A shihni rezultate t\u00eb k\u00ebtij polarizimi brenda familjes tuaj, ose n\u00eb mesin e miq\u00ebve tuaj?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Shafak<\/strong>: Po, un\u00eb e shoh k\u00ebt\u00eb n\u00eb rrethin e ngusht\u00eb t\u00eb miqve t\u00eb mi. Midis nesh ka disa q\u00eb mb\u00ebshtesin qeverin\u00eb dhe ka t\u00eb tjer\u00eb t\u00eb cil\u00ebt jan\u00eb shum\u00eb kritik\u00eb. Por fakti q\u00eb ne flasim dhe diskutojn\u00eb me nj\u00ebri-tjetrin \u00ebsht\u00eb pothuajse nj\u00eb p\u00ebrjashtim n\u00eb Turqi. Pse? Sepse shoq\u00ebria \u00ebsht\u00eb ndar\u00eb n\u00eb geto me mure xhami. Gjithkush \u00ebsht\u00eb n\u00eb ishullin e tij dhe nuk flet me njer\u00ebzit e ishullit tjet\u00ebr. Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb shoq\u00ebri e zem\u00ebruar, mosbesuese, paranojake dhe e teorive konspirative.<\/p>\n

SPIEGEL: Nga erdhi ky polarizim ekstrem?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Shafak<\/strong>: Ka nj\u00eb sfond t\u00eb nd\u00ebrlikuar, por nj\u00eb nga p\u00ebrgjigjet mund t\u00eb gjendet n\u00eb nj\u00eb studim t\u00eb koh\u00ebve t\u00eb fundit t\u00eb Pew. N\u00eb 38 vende, qendra k\u00ebrkimore pyeti njer\u00ebzit n\u00ebse ishte e ligjshme q\u00eb njer\u00ebzit t\u00eb kritikonin qeverin\u00eb me z\u00eb dhe publikisht? N\u00eb Liban, 98 p\u00ebr qind e njer\u00ebzve than\u00eb po, se ishte Ok. N\u00eb Jordani, numri bie n\u00eb 64 p\u00ebr qind. N\u00eb Pakistan, \u00ebsht\u00eb 54 p\u00ebr qind dhe n\u00eb Turqi, \u00ebsht\u00eb 52 p\u00ebr qind. Kjo do t\u00eb thot\u00eb se gati gjysma e popullsis\u00eb turke beson se nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb e ligjshme q\u00eb t\u00eb kritikohet qeveria. Interesante, por kjo lidhet me numrin e mb\u00ebshtet\u00ebsve t\u00eb qeveris\u00eb s\u00eb Erdoganit.<\/p>\n

SPIEGEL: Ama nga nga vendet e p\u00ebrmendura, Turqia \u00ebsht\u00eb n\u00eb t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb m\u00eb demokratike. Si e shpjegoni k\u00ebt\u00eb?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Shafak<\/strong>: Ky \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb fenomen i ri \u2013 dhe \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb paradoks i madh. Mediat kryesore vazhdimisht thot\u00eb se ka armiq kudo, si brenda edhe jasht\u00eb \u2013 dhe kushdo q\u00eb flet n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb kritike stigmatizohet si \u201ctradhtar\u201d. Pra, konkluzioni q\u00eb njer\u00ebzit nxjerrin \u00ebsht\u00eb se ata nuk duhet t\u00eb kritikojn\u00eb qeverin\u00eb. Aq sa qesharake mund t\u00eb ting\u00eblloj\u00eb, por un\u00eb kam qen\u00eb e akuzuar se jam drejtuar nga nj\u00eb \u201clob nd\u00ebrkomb\u00ebtar i let\u00ebrsis\u00eb\u201d. Pretendimi \u00ebsht\u00eb se ka nj\u00eb lob t\u00eb madh diku jasht\u00eb dhe nga \u00e7do vend, ata zgjedhin dy ose tre autor\u00ebt dhe i p\u00ebrdorin ata p\u00ebr t\u00eb kritikuar qeverit\u00eb e tyre. Ka shum\u00eb njer\u00ebz n\u00eb Turqi q\u00eb e besojn\u00eb nj\u00eb idiot\u00ebsi t\u00eb till\u00eb.<\/p>\n

SPIEGEL: A nisi kjo gj\u00eb vet\u00ebm me Erdoganin dhe partia e tij AKP, apo politika e tij thjesht po p\u00ebrforcon pasigurit\u00eb sociale q\u00eb ishin t\u00eb trash\u00ebguara?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Shafak<\/strong>: Sigurisht, kjo ka t\u00eb b\u00ebj\u00eb me historin\u00eb ton\u00eb. Shum\u00eb analist\u00eb e krahasojn\u00eb Turqin\u00eb me vendet n\u00eb Lindjen e Mesme, por un\u00eb mendoj se ne duhet ta krahasojm\u00eb at\u00eb me Rusin\u00eb. T\u00eb dy vendet vijn\u00eb nga nj\u00eb tradit\u00eb perandorake, por edhe nga nj\u00eb tradit\u00eb e shtetit t\u00eb fort\u00eb. N\u00eb nj\u00eb demokraci normale, ju mbroni individin nga fuqia e tepruar e shtetit. N\u00eb Turqi, elitat e pushtetit p\u00ebrpiqen t\u00eb mbrojn\u00eb shtetin \u2013 sikur ky shtet t\u00eb ishte i brisht\u00eb dhe t\u00eb kishte nevoj\u00eb p\u00ebr mbrojtje \u2013 kur n\u00eb fakt, ai \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb i fuqish\u00ebm tashm\u00eb. K\u00ebtej ka nisur dhe n\u00eb pes\u00eb vitet e fundit, Turqia \u00ebsht\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb gjithnj\u00eb e m\u00eb autoritare.<\/p>\n

SPIEGEL: N\u00eb qoft\u00eb se Turqia \u00ebsht\u00eb si Rusia, a ka edhe ngjashm\u00ebri mes Erdoganit dhe Vladimir Putin?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Shafak<\/strong>: Erdogan ka ndryshuar shum\u00eb q\u00eb kur ai erdhi n\u00eb pushtet. Nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb sekret q\u00eb ai d\u00ebshiron t\u00eb ndryshoj\u00eb kushtetut\u00ebn p\u00ebr t\u00eb pasur nj\u00eb sistem presidencial dhe un\u00eb jam e sigurt se ai do t\u00eb b\u00ebj\u00eb gjith\u00e7ka q\u00eb mundet p\u00ebr t\u00eb arritur deri atje. Jam shum\u00eb e shqet\u00ebsuar p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb p\u00ebrqendrim t\u00eb pushtetit dhe kjo nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb vet\u00ebm p\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb Erdoganit. Ne kemi kutin\u00eb e votimit, por ne nuk kemi kultur\u00ebn e demokracis\u00eb. Qeveria thot\u00eb: Shihni, ne kemi shumic\u00ebn, ne jemi zgjedhur t\u00eb b\u00ebjm\u00eb gjith\u00e7ka q\u00eb duam. Por kjo nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb demokraci, kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb mazhoritariz\u00ebm.<\/p>\n

SPIEGEL: Doni t\u00eb thoni q\u00eb n\u00eb Turqi nuk ka demokraci?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Shafak<\/strong>: Do t\u00eb doja t\u00eb kishim m\u00eb tep\u00ebr nuanca p\u00ebr t\u00eb p\u00ebrcaktuar demokracin\u00eb. Natyrisht, Turqia nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb regjim tipik autoritar dhe padyshim \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb e r\u00ebnd\u00ebsishme se ka zgjedhje t\u00eb lira. Por \u00ebsht\u00eb gjithashtu e qart\u00eb se kjo nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb demokraci liberale, nj\u00eb demokraci t\u00eb pjekur. Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb arsyeja pse un\u00eb e quaj nj\u00eb demokraci q\u00eb mbahet n\u00eb fije t\u00eb perit. N\u00eb \u00e7do koh\u00eb, ajo mund t\u00eb bjer\u00eb posht\u00eb.<\/p>\n

SPIEGEL: T\u00eb diel\u00ebn e kaluar, Bashkimi Evropian ftoi Turqin\u00eb n\u00eb nj\u00eb samit n\u00eb Bruksel p\u00ebr her\u00eb t\u00eb par\u00eb pas nj\u00eb koh\u00eb t\u00eb gjat\u00eb dhe ka premtuar 3 miliard\u00eb euro, viza dhe nj\u00eb revitalizimin t\u00eb procesit p\u00ebr pranimin n\u00eb BE. T\u00eb drejtat e njeriut dhe liria e fjal\u00ebs nuk u p\u00ebrmend\u00ebn, pavar\u00ebsisht faktit se gazetar\u00ebt e Cumhuriyet u arrestuan pak koh\u00eb m\u00eb par\u00eb. A ju suprizon ky p\u00ebrmir\u00ebsim i papritur politik i Erdogan?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Shafak<\/strong>: K\u00ebto dy gazetar\u00eb u shkruan nj\u00eb let\u00ebr nga burgu lider\u00ebve t\u00eb BE-s\u00eb duke u th\u00ebn\u00eb: Mos harroni lirin\u00eb e fjal\u00ebs, mos harroni demokracin\u00eb. Por ndodhi pik\u00ebrisht kjo gj\u00eb. N\u00ebse ne i harrojm\u00eb k\u00ebto vlera, m\u00eb shum\u00eb gazetar\u00eb do t\u00eb arrestohen dhe ne do t\u00eb humbasin z\u00ebrin e tyre. T\u00eb drejtat e njeriut dhe liria e shprehjes jan\u00eb jetike, \u00e7\u00ebshtje urgjente dhe t\u00eb panegociueshme.<\/p>\n

SPIEGEL: Cila \u00ebsht\u00eb arsyeja pse BE-ja \u00ebsht\u00eb e gatshme t\u00eb mb\u00ebshtes\u00eb Erdoganin dhe t\u00eb p\u00ebrmbahet nga kritikat p\u00ebr gjith\u00eb shkeljet e t\u00eb drejtave t\u00eb njeriut n\u00eb Turqi?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Shafak<\/strong>: Duke u p\u00ebrballur me gjith\u00eb k\u00ebto kriza ( ajo e emigrant\u00ebve nga Siria), gjithnj\u00eb e m\u00eb shum\u00eb njer\u00ebz favorizojn\u00eb stabilitetin mbi demokracin\u00eb, n\u00eb Turqi dhe n\u00eb Per\u00ebndim. BE-ja, mesa duket, do regjimet e q\u00ebndrueshme dhe p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb arsye nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb m\u00eb e fokusuar tek t\u00eb drejtat e njeriut. \u00cbsht\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb nj\u00eb \u00e7\u00ebshtje q\u00eb mund t\u00eb pres\u00eb, q\u00eb mund t\u00eb shtyhet. Por nuk mund t\u00eb shtyhet. Nuk mund t\u00eb ket\u00eb stabilitet pa demokraci.<\/p>\n

SPIEGEL: Dukeni e zhg\u00ebnjyer.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Shafak<\/strong>: Ndonj\u00ebher\u00eb ndjej se kam m\u00eb shum\u00eb besim n\u00eb idealet evropiane sesa disa nga miqt\u00eb e mi britanik\u00eb apo francez\u00eb. P\u00ebr ta, kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb barr\u00eb financiare. P\u00ebr mua, Europa \u00ebsht\u00eb primare p\u00ebr vlerat, p\u00ebr t\u00eb drejtat themelore t\u00eb njeriut, lirin\u00eb, t\u00eb drejtat e grave. Mesazhi nga samiti i jav\u00ebs s\u00eb kaluar, megjithat\u00eb, ishte: Evropa ka v\u00ebn\u00eb vlerat e veta n\u00eb pritje.<\/p>\n

SPIEGEL: Mendoni ende se Turqia duhet t\u00eb b\u00ebhet an\u00ebtare e BE-s\u00eb?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Shafak<\/strong>: Un\u00eb kam qen\u00eb dhe ende jam nj\u00eb ithtare e madhe e an\u00ebtar\u00ebsimit t\u00eb Turqis\u00eb n\u00eb BE. N\u00eb vitin 2005 dhe 2006 u duk pothuajse e mundur. Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb tragjedi e madhe q\u00eb ky moment historik ka humbur p\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb vizionit t\u00eb shkurt\u00ebr t\u00eb politikan\u00ebve populist\u00eb n\u00eb t\u00eb gjitha an\u00ebt. Si nj\u00eb an\u00ebtare e BE-s\u00eb, qeveria nuk mund t\u00eb b\u00ebhet kaq autoritare. Do t\u00eb jet\u00eb m\u00eb e kontrolluar dhe m\u00eb e balancuar. Shikoni se \u00e7far\u00eb ka ndodhur q\u00ebkur Turqia i ka kthyer shpin\u00ebn Evrop\u00ebs dhe ka ecur n\u00eb nj\u00eb drejtim tjet\u00ebr. Por ajo q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb m\u00eb e dobishme p\u00ebr ne \u00ebsht\u00eb: Nj\u00eb Turqi q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb pjes\u00eb e Evrop\u00ebs, pjes\u00eb e bot\u00ebs demokratike, liberale dhe e fjal\u00ebs s\u00eb lir\u00eb \u2013 apo nj\u00eb Turqi q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb n\u00eb an\u00ebn e shteteve m\u00eb autoritare?<\/p>\n

SPIEGEL: A duan njer\u00ebzit n\u00eb Turqi ende t\u00eb jen\u00eb pjes\u00eb e BE-s\u00eb?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Shafak<\/strong>: N\u00eb kulmin e debatit p\u00ebr BE-n\u00eb disa vite m\u00eb par\u00eb, deri n\u00eb 82 p\u00ebr qind e njer\u00ebzve donin q\u00eb Turqia t\u00eb ishte an\u00ebtare e BE-s\u00eb. Ne jemi rritur duke lexuar Balzac dhe Goethe, ne ndjehemi evropian\u00eb. Por, pasi kjo gj\u00eb nuk ndodhi, ky trend ndryshoi shum\u00eb shpejt. Mb\u00ebshtetja p\u00ebr an\u00ebtar\u00ebsim n\u00eb BE ka r\u00ebn\u00eb tashm\u00eb n\u00eb 20 p\u00ebr qind. Ne jemi popull emocional. Emocionet jan\u00eb subjekt p\u00ebr ndryshimin.<\/p>\n

SPIEGEL: A mundet q\u00eb kriza e refugjat\u00ebve t\u00eb jet\u00eb e mjaftueshme ta bashkoj\u00eb s\u00ebrish Turqin\u00eb dhe Evrop\u00ebn?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Shafak<\/strong>: Un\u00eb do t\u00eb doja q\u00eb kriza e refugjat\u00ebve t\u00eb kthehej n\u00eb nj\u00eb fillim t\u00eb ri n\u00eb marr\u00ebdh\u00ebniet turko-evropiane. Por kjo do t\u00eb ishte shum\u00eb problematike, n\u00ebse, gjat\u00eb k\u00ebtij procesi, t\u00eb drejtat e njeriut do t\u00eb harrohen. Demokracia duhet t\u00eb jet\u00eb prioritet.<\/p>\n

SPIEGEL: Ju dukeni mjaft e lodhur. A ka m\u00eb shpres\u00eb p\u00ebr ndryshime politike n\u00eb Turqi?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Shafak<\/strong>: Un\u00eb jam gjysm\u00eb pesimiste dhe gjysm\u00eb optimiste. Ose si\u00e7 autori Antonio Gramsci do t\u00eb thoshte; Un\u00eb besoj n\u00eb optimizmin e vullnetit dhe pesimizmin e intelektit<\/em>. Por, shpresa ime \u00ebsht\u00eb populli, shoq\u00ebria, e cila \u00ebsht\u00eb p\u00ebrpara qeveris\u00eb. Turqia ka nj\u00eb popullsi shum\u00eb t\u00eb re, dinamike dhe shum\u00eb kurioze. N\u00eb Evrop\u00eb, Facebook dhe Twitter p\u00ebrdoren m\u00eb shum\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb ndar\u00eb eksperiencat e p\u00ebrditshme, nd\u00ebrsa p\u00ebr popullin turk, rrjetet sociale jan\u00eb platforma politike. Sa m\u00eb shum\u00eb q\u00eb media humbi lirin\u00eb e saj, aq m\u00eb t\u00eb politizuara u b\u00ebn\u00eb mediat sociale. Qeveria u p\u00ebrpoq t\u00eb ndaloj\u00eb Twitter-in, por kjo nuk ishte e suksesshme. Bota dixhitale po zhvillohet me nj\u00eb forc\u00eb dhe rit\u00ebm t\u00eb till\u00eb, q\u00eb as qeveria thjesht nuk mund ta ndaloj\u00eb apo ta kontrolloj\u00eb at\u00eb. Njer\u00ebzit duan t\u00eb jen\u00eb t\u00eb lidhur n\u00eb nivel global. Ka shpres\u00eb atje.<\/p>\n

SPIEGEL: Si do duket Turqia 10 vite m\u00eb pas? Do e qeveris\u00eb ende Erdogan vendin?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Shafak<\/strong>: Nuk e di, por ne jemi n\u00eb nj\u00eb moment kritik. Nuk mund t\u00eb vazhdohet m\u00eb k\u00ebshtu. Polarizimi \u00ebsht\u00eb kaq i thell\u00eb tani. N\u00eb t\u00eb kaluar\u00ebn, ka pasur njer\u00ebz t\u00eb cil\u00ebt mund t\u00eb ishin si ura bashkimi p\u00ebr k\u00ebto dy an\u00eb, si liberal\u00ebt dhe konservator\u00ebt. Ne nuk i kemi m\u00eb k\u00ebta nd\u00ebrtues urash. Pas shp\u00ebrthimeve n\u00eb Ankara m\u00eb 10 tetor, u k\u00ebrkua q\u00eb t\u00eb mbahej nj\u00eb minut\u00eb heshtje, por shum\u00eb nuk pranuan. Shoq\u00ebria jon\u00eb nuk mund t\u00eb bashkohet as n\u00eb pik\u00ebllimin p\u00ebr t\u00eb nderuar viktimat. Ne e kemi humbur ndjeshm\u00ebrin\u00eb ton\u00eb. Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb ndoshta dhe m\u00eb e keqja.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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